Absolute Vorticity

Bgoney wrote: ↑Wed Oct 09, 2024 8:09 pmIMG_2432.gif

tpweather wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2024 6:26 am Good Morning and yes the storm is winding down. With all storms there are surprises whether good or bad. I guess the good is the storm went down to a Cat 3 before landfall but again that still caused major damage. The bad was the amount of tornado's and the damage and loss of life before the Hurricane itself reached landfall. Normally you will get a few tornado's with landfall Hurricane but I had noticed Tuesday night the waterspouts west of Florida were not only seen but the spin was more than normal. This ended up a forerunner of what happened Wednesday.

Going to take time just to get power back on probably years to repair the houses,buildings and also need to see how the outer islands were probably changed to a certain extent.

These kind of storms the past 3 weeks is Mother Nature trying to balance the atmosphere in this part of the world. The amount of warmth across most of North America including Alaska was so widespread and with a change of seasons she is trying to make that work but needed overtime to get this done.

tron777 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2024 8:54 am I've been seeing lots of damage and videos coming out of FL this morning. The tornadoes with this system really caused problems even for location far away from the center such as Miami. Lots of trailer parks destroyed, roof torn off, windows blown out of buildings. Even Tropicana Field had some damage. It's going to be a long time for the state to recover for sure.

Milton is finally off the coast now and only some wind and rain on the backside of the storm remains for the East Coast.

Hurricane Milton Intermediate Advisory Number 21A
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL142024
800 AM EDT Thu Oct 10 2024

...CENTER OF MILTON PULLING AWAY FROM THE EAST COAST OF FLORIDA...
...STRONG GUSTY WINDS AND HEAVY RAINFALL STILL OCCURRING NEAR THE
SPACE COAST...


SUMMARY OF 800 AM EDT...1200 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...28.9N 79.5W
ABOUT 75 MI...120 KM ENE OF CAPE CANAVERAL FLORIDA
ABOUT 225 MI...365 KM NW OF GREAT ABACO ISLAND
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...85 MPH...140 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...ENE OR 60 DEGREES AT 18 MPH...30 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...980 MB...28.94 INCHES

House of Cards wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2024 9:13 am

tron777 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2024 8:54 am I've been seeing lots of damage and videos coming out of FL this morning. The tornadoes with this system really caused problems even for location far away from the center such as Miami. Lots of trailer parks destroyed, roof torn off, windows blown out of buildings. Even Tropicana Field had some damage. It's going to be a long time for the state to recover for sure.

Milton is finally off the coast now and only some wind and rain on the backside of the storm remains for the East Coast.

Hurricane Milton Intermediate Advisory Number 21A
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL142024
800 AM EDT Thu Oct 10 2024

...CENTER OF MILTON PULLING AWAY FROM THE EAST COAST OF FLORIDA...
...STRONG GUSTY WINDS AND HEAVY RAINFALL STILL OCCURRING NEAR THE
SPACE COAST...


SUMMARY OF 800 AM EDT...1200 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...28.9N 79.5W
ABOUT 75 MI...120 KM ENE OF CAPE CANAVERAL FLORIDA
ABOUT 225 MI...365 KM NW OF GREAT ABACO ISLAND
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...85 MPH...140 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...ENE OR 60 DEGREES AT 18 MPH...30 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...980 MB...28.94 INCHES

It will take time to recover, but Florida government and citizens all have their sh!t together as a rule of thumb, I think it'll be quicker than you'd think. But certainly glad to see Milton weakened pretty substantially prior to landfall and also that it wobbled just enough to drop south of Tampa proper. I was watching some of Reed Timmer's live feeds last night, it still looked insane.

tpweather wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2024 9:30 am The day after and what happen is not always what models will predict. The biggest surge was further south because of the track of the storm. The surge was probably not as big because this was a quick in quick out kind of storm. The surge in northern Florida with Helene was much higher and the main reason is you had a couple of days with the waters coming ashore compared to say less than 12 hours. This makes a difference and not sure models are even programmed to figure this part of the equation.

Tornado's and the outbreak was greater than was predicted. I have no ideal about the mets in Florida and if they were on top of this but Tuesday night when I saw those water spouts in the western GOM I thought this is no doubt going to be a system with above normal tornado's. Hopefully they were on top of this since this is their local weather and they would have a better handle on this possibility.

tron777 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2024 9:35 am

tpweather wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2024 9:30 am The day after and what happen is not always what models will predict. The biggest surge was further south because of the track of the storm. The surge was probably not as big because this was a quick in quick out kind of storm. The surge in northern Florida with Helene was much higher and the main reason is you had a couple of days with the waters coming ashore compared to say less than 12 hours. This makes a difference and not sure models are even programmed to figure this part of the equation.

Tornado's and the outbreak was greater than was predicted. I have no ideal about the mets in Florida and if they were on top of this but Tuesday night when I saw those water spouts in the western GOM I thought this is no doubt going to be a system with above normal tornado's. Hopefully they were on top of this since this is their local weather and they would have a better handle on this possibility.

There were over 130 tornado warning issued by local NWS offices. That broke the record for October as you would expect. Per the SPC, we're up to 45 tornado reports now. Again, some could be duplicates and the NWS offices will need to conduct storm damage surveys to confirm everything so it'll take a few weeks before we know the exact number.

tpweather wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2024 9:39 am

tron777 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2024 9:35 am

tpweather wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2024 9:30 am The day after and what happen is not always what models will predict. The biggest surge was further south because of the track of the storm. The surge was probably not as big because this was a quick in quick out kind of storm. The surge in northern Florida with Helene was much higher and the main reason is you had a couple of days with the waters coming ashore compared to say less than 12 hours. This makes a difference and not sure models are even programmed to figure this part of the equation.

Tornado's and the outbreak was greater than was predicted. I have no ideal about the mets in Florida and if they were on top of this but Tuesday night when I saw those water spouts in the western GOM I thought this is no doubt going to be a system with above normal tornado's. Hopefully they were on top of this since this is their local weather and they would have a better handle on this possibility.

There were over 130 tornado warning issued by local NWS offices. That broke the record for October as you would expect. Per the SPC, we're up to 45 tornado reports now. Again, some could be duplicates and the NWS offices will need to conduct storm damage surveys to confirm everything so it'll take a few weeks before we know the exact number.

Les it looks like quite a few folks lost their life due to tornado's. Of course going to take a few days to get the exact number. I saw a few of these by storm chasers and these were some very strong tornado's.

tron777 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2024 8:54 am I've been seeing lots of damage and videos coming out of FL this morning. The tornadoes with this system really caused problems even for location far away from the center such as Miami. Lots of trailer parks destroyed, roof torn off, windows blown out of buildings. Even Tropicana Field had some damage. It's going to be a long time for the state to recover for sure.

Milton is finally off the coast now and only some wind and rain on the backside of the storm remains for the East Coast.

Hurricane Milton Intermediate Advisory Number 21A
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL142024
800 AM EDT Thu Oct 10 2024

...CENTER OF MILTON PULLING AWAY FROM THE EAST COAST OF FLORIDA...
...STRONG GUSTY WINDS AND HEAVY RAINFALL STILL OCCURRING NEAR THE
SPACE COAST...


SUMMARY OF 800 AM EDT...1200 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...28.9N 79.5W
ABOUT 75 MI...120 KM ENE OF CAPE CANAVERAL FLORIDA
ABOUT 225 MI...365 KM NW OF GREAT ABACO ISLAND
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...85 MPH...140 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...ENE OR 60 DEGREES AT 18 MPH...30 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...980 MB...28.94 INCHES

MVWxObserver wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2024 1:11 pm

tron777 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2024 8:54 am I've been seeing lots of damage and videos coming out of FL this morning. The tornadoes with this system really caused problems even for location far away from the center such as Miami. Lots of trailer parks destroyed, roof torn off, windows blown out of buildings. Even Tropicana Field had some damage. It's going to be a long time for the state to recover for sure.

Milton is finally off the coast now and only some wind and rain on the backside of the storm remains for the East Coast.

Hurricane Milton Intermediate Advisory Number 21A
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL142024
800 AM EDT Thu Oct 10 2024

...CENTER OF MILTON PULLING AWAY FROM THE EAST COAST OF FLORIDA...
...STRONG GUSTY WINDS AND HEAVY RAINFALL STILL OCCURRING NEAR THE
SPACE COAST...


SUMMARY OF 800 AM EDT...1200 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...28.9N 79.5W
ABOUT 75 MI...120 KM ENE OF CAPE CANAVERAL FLORIDA
ABOUT 225 MI...365 KM NW OF GREAT ABACO ISLAND
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...85 MPH...140 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...ENE OR 60 DEGREES AT 18 MPH...30 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...980 MB...28.94 INCHES

I saw video footage on Fox News where Milton ripped the canvas roof to shreds off Tropicana Field. Also footage of where a crane toppled onto a newspaper company bldg in Tampa destroying some offices.