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Re: February 2023 Discussion

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:10 am
by Trevor
I’m not particularly enthused by the severe prospects today — or I should say, anything super organized. Isolated severe? Sure. But I just don’t see things getting too out of hand personally.

Re: February 2023 Discussion

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:29 am
by tron777
Trevor wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:10 am I’m not particularly enthused by the severe prospects today — or I should say, anything super organized. Isolated severe? Sure. But I just don’t see things getting too out of hand personally.
Instability could be an issue. I see a touch of sun coming later but not enough unless something changes.

Re: February 2023 Discussion

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:41 am
by tron777
Just had another band of showers move through. More to come over Western IN, maybe some embedded thunder.

Re: February 2023 Discussion

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:49 am
by tpweather
I agree with Trev on the severe aspect. Isolated and main item will be gusty winds getting to the surface. Dew points may not get above 55 and even the dew points well south of here are not that impressive with this kind of system. The system later this week has a good shot of a severe outbreak to the southeast of us.

Re: February 2023 Discussion

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:55 am
by tron777
Winds will be picking up in just a few hours. Winds gusting 25 to 35 mph in the Western half of KY at this time per KY Mesonet sites.

Re: February 2023 Discussion

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:19 am
by Trevor
While this winter has not achieved what most snow weenies would like, still have a staple item to look back on and that was the pre-Xmas “blizzard” and bitter cold. That was epic and historical.

Still time for a big dog as other have mentioned, but as each day goes by, climo is pushing back. We shall see!

Re: February 2023 Discussion

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:31 am
by tron777

Re: February 2023 Discussion

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:31 am
by tpweather
Trevor wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:19 am While this winter has not achieved what most snow weenies would like, still have a staple item to look back on and that was the pre-Xmas “blizzard” and bitter cold. That was epic and historical.

Still time for a big dog as other have mentioned, but as each day goes by, climo is pushing back. We shall see!
This winter and especially Feb has been noted for wind makers. Seemed more like March than Feb and my guess deeper into March it will feel more like Feb. Blocking in Jan and Feb has not been there at all and though we have seen many systems come through here they have been mild but progressive so rainfall totals have not gotten out of hand. That is good new for any major flooding and sure we could still see some heavier rains in March and April but with the vegetation coming out early that also helps for flooding aspects.

My biggest concern is early heat this summer as the central and southern plains really need some rainfall over the next month or so and since the west has done well expect heat waves to form more where a possible drought is located and that is in the central part of the country.

Re: February 2023 Discussion

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:45 am
by tron777
MJO models continue to show it in Phase 8 and at a high amplitude too after 3/10. Also seeing the -WPO, -EPO, and -NAO all going negative as well. Hopefully we'll see some of those changes during the 2nd week of March. Better signals for below avg temps are ahead. For the last couple of months, with these intense lows that we keep getting, that is one reason why the winds have been so strong with the majority of storm systems. this winter. Big time pressure and temp. gradients have fueled stronger storms.

Re: February 2023 Discussion

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:49 am
by tron777
Band of showers with the warm front working thru. I had some gusty winds with the earlier sun breaks. Wind has relaxed due to clouds / rain. I suspect once the dry slot comes in the winds will crank up later along with a few sun breaks. Central IN on north has an MD out for a 60% chance of a tornado watch to be issued later.


https://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/md/md0204.html

Re: February 2023 Discussion

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:58 am
by tpweather
tron777 wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:49 am Band of showers with the warm front working thru. I had some gusty winds with the earlier sun breaks. Wind has relaxed due to clouds / rain. I suspect once the dry slot comes in the winds will crank up later along with a few sun breaks. Central IN on north has an MD out for a 60% chance of a tornado watch to be issued later.


https://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/md/md0204.html
I agree Les and already one warning in central Illinois. I agree with the central In and northern 2/3rds of Ohio have a chance of an isolated Tornado. I believe locally we are okay but never rule out completely with a set up like this. Biggest concern will be the gusty winds as we have seen with many of the systems over the past couple of months.

Re: February 2023 Discussion

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:14 am
by Trevor
Tornado watch issued for areas NW of Cincy Metro.

Re: February 2023 Discussion

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:17 am
by Trevor
Not much time to recover but need to watch this area of filtered sunshine/clearing ahead of the front.

Re: February 2023 Discussion

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:19 am
by tron777
CAPE values of 500 J/KG on the IL / IN border counties where those cells are firing.

Re: February 2023 Discussion

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:22 am
by Trevor
Locally, NAM-HR is the most aggressive from a simulated reflectivity standpoint for additional convection this afternoon down this way. Watch and wait as always.

Re: February 2023 Discussion

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:28 am
by tron777
58 degree dews here. 60 degree dews are working into West Central KY now. Low is pretty strong at 984 MB over the Quad Cities.

Re: February 2023 Discussion

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:36 am
by Trevor
Based on directional movement, this is the area we need to watch for convective development. Again, window of destabilization is small so that is on our side to help keep things in check. By that I mean anything widespread. Isolated severe cells with wind, hail, and tornadoes are very much still on the table.

Re: February 2023 Discussion

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:37 am
by tron777
Getting a heavy downpour now. Not much wind just a good ole fashioned rain shower.

Re: February 2023 Discussion

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 12:05 pm
by Bgoney
Front about to enter Indiana


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Re: February 2023 Discussion

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 12:08 pm
by Trevor
Buddy at ILN is saying that, while moisture is better down this way, lift is better north.

Re: February 2023 Discussion

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 12:20 pm
by tpweather
Yes the dew points have risen but it will be short lived as once the front passes by dew points go down in a hurry. The drier air moving in from the southwest as Paducah down to 47 dew and Owensboro dropped 3 degrees as winds shift. Next will be Louisville and then CVG. The rains over the pass few hours has also put a damper on severe weather locally. Again gusty winds yes but timing is critical and that looks to be further north in terms of severe weather and like Trevor mentioned the lift is much better further north and you can see some isolated storms forming and some may contain a tornado or two.

Re: February 2023 Discussion

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 12:21 pm
by MVWxObserver
Currently 50 here in G'ville and 53 at DAY. ILN projects 61 here and 63 in DAY for today.

Re: February 2023 Discussion

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 12:22 pm
by Bgoney
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Re: February 2023 Discussion

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 12:30 pm
by tpweather
Great Map Bgoney and the good thing for us that is moving northeast quickly and much drier air is coming in from the southwest. Never rule out an isolated storm but imo the best chances are to the north.

Re: February 2023 Discussion

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 12:31 pm
by airwolf76
this system is giving me a winter weather advisary for 3-5" of snow . starting later today.