January 5-6th, 2025 The Double Digit Storm
Re: January 5-6th, 2025 First Legit Winter Storm of the Season
Logged in and ready I am telling myself this will be a sleet / rain event, anything better is icing (hopefully not ice) on the cake. GFS north, Euro south, seems like that's where we want to be right now.
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Re: January 5-6th, 2025 First Legit Winter Storm of the Season
540 thicknesses at CVG are 542 so sleet may try and mix in Cincy tri-state and S of river otherwise all snow north of there for everyone else. Ice concern still over our S counties S of CVG Metro and into Central KY. Major icing concern in our SE counties on this run.
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CVG
SUN 18Z 05-JAN -4.2 -3.9 1020 66 100 0.05 556 540
MON 00Z 06-JAN -5.0 -3.3 1012 91 99 0.39 551 542
MON 06Z 06-JAN -4.9 -2.9 1006 90 77 0.23 543 538
MON 12Z 06-JAN -5.3 -10.2 1011 87 100 0.17 536 528
MON 18Z 06-JAN -4.3 -12.0 1017 79 59 0.07 540 527
HAO
SUN 18Z 05-JAN -3.9 -5.6 1021 47 99 0.03 555 538
MON 00Z 06-JAN -5.3 -4.2 1013 90 101 0.38 551 541
MON 06Z 06-JAN -5.3 -4.6 1008 91 87 0.21 542 537
MON 12Z 06-JAN -5.4 -10.3 1011 86 99 0.13 536 528
MON 18Z 06-JAN -4.8 -12.7 1017 83 49 0.06 540 527
MGY
SUN 18Z 05-JAN -4.3 -6.9 1021 45 99 0.02 554 538
MON 00Z 06-JAN -6.0 -4.6 1014 89 100 0.32 550 540
MON 06Z 06-JAN -5.7 -5.1 1008 87 90 0.28 542 536
MON 12Z 06-JAN -5.6 -10.1 1010 87 100 0.08 537 528
MON 18Z 06-JAN -5.1 -12.7 1016 85 45 0.05 539 526
DAY
SUN 18Z 05-JAN -4.0 -7.6 1021 38 98 0.02 553 537
MON 00Z 06-JAN -6.1 -5.4 1015 87 100 0.22 550 539
MON 06Z 06-JAN -5.7 -6.2 1009 85 93 0.17 542 535
MON 12Z 06-JAN -5.8 -10.0 1011 87 101 0.06 537 528
MON 18Z 06-JAN -5.3 -13.1 1016 86 40 0.02 539 526
CMH
MON 00Z 06-JAN -5.7 -6.0 1016 83 100 0.14 550 538
MON 06Z 06-JAN -5.5 -6.3 1010 85 100 0.18 543 535
MON 12Z 06-JAN -5.5 -9.3 1008 79 100 0.04 537 530
MON 18Z 06-JAN -4.0 -12.9 1013 86 49 0.03 537 527
TUE 00Z 07-JAN -6.0 -14.9 1020 82 38 0.01 539 524
FGX - Sleet and frz rain ending as a few inches of snow. Huge mess!
MON 00Z 06-JAN -4.2 -1.9 1012 92 98 0.42 554 545
MON 06Z 06-JAN -3.5 1.0 1004 92 58 0.24 545 541
MON 12Z 06-JAN -4.7 -7.0 1007 89 100 0.11 537 531
MON 18Z 06-JAN -3.9 -11.6 1015 83 91 0.11 540 528
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Re: January 5-6th, 2025 First Legit Winter Storm of the Season
Looks like a mix issue all the way up to Dayton . A 998 low and a 1000 low makes a big difference
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Re: January 5-6th, 2025 First Legit Winter Storm of the Season
Even with the sleet cutting it down, still a solid snow hit as well.
It’s 11.4 as all snow, so could easily be a 4-6” event.
It’s 11.4 as all snow, so could easily be a 4-6” event.
Re: January 5-6th, 2025 First Legit Winter Storm of the Season
gotta love tracking these storms with days to go. fun times !. sure is windy out there today and also had a few sleet/ice pellets come down at times.
22'/23' snowfall > 11"
23'/24' snowfall > 19.5"
24'/25' snowfall > 12 "
23'/24' snowfall > 19.5"
24'/25' snowfall > 12 "
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Re: January 5-6th, 2025 First Legit Winter Storm of the Season
tron777 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2025 12:48 pm 540 thicknesses at CVG are 542 so sleet may try and mix in Cincy tri-state and S of river otherwise all snow north of there for everyone else. Ice concern still over our S counties S of CVG Metro and into Central KY. Major icing concern in our SE counties on this run.
And there it is- sleet/cold rain start butting in while north gets snow.
Come on storm - throw us a bone!!
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Re: January 5-6th, 2025 First Legit Winter Storm of the Season
Models will go back and forth with the strength until some of the energy gets sampled on Friday / Fri night.
Re: January 5-6th, 2025 First Legit Winter Storm of the Season
As we've all heard, the windshield washer effect. We are in a great spot at the moment. With the blocking to the north, as we've talked about, this thing isn't going to go too far north. Could there still be some mixing in my opinion, yes, but I think when all is said and done the ice and sleet will be in Kentucky. I would be more concerned about a southward shift them a northern shift. All that said, we all have opinions at this point, 4 days out is still a lot of room for adjustments.
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Re: January 5-6th, 2025 First Legit Winter Storm of the Season
the storm signal is strong thats about all you need to worry about at this time. details will start to emerge as you get closerMJSun wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2025 12:54 pmtron777 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2025 12:48 pm 540 thicknesses at CVG are 542 so sleet may try and mix in Cincy tri-state and S of river otherwise all snow north of there for everyone else. Ice concern still over our S counties S of CVG Metro and into Central KY. Major icing concern in our SE counties on this run.
And there it is- sleet/cold rain start butting in while north gets snow.
Come on storm - throw us a bone!!
22'/23' snowfall > 11"
23'/24' snowfall > 19.5"
24'/25' snowfall > 12 "
23'/24' snowfall > 19.5"
24'/25' snowfall > 12 "
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12Z EPS SLP Clusters = Still S of OP Euro.
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12Z EPS QPF Mean is between 0.75" north and 1" southern areas. That is pretty significant on an Ensemble Mean.
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CB First Call Precip Type:
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I'll try. Been torched too often!airwolf76 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2025 1:45 pmthe storm signal is strong thats about all you need to worry about at this time. details will start to emerge as you get closerMJSun wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2025 12:54 pmtron777 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2025 12:48 pm 540 thicknesses at CVG are 542 so sleet may try and mix in Cincy tri-state and S of river otherwise all snow north of there for everyone else. Ice concern still over our S counties S of CVG Metro and into Central KY. Major icing concern in our SE counties on this run.
And there it is- sleet/cold rain start butting in while north gets snow.
Come on storm - throw us a bone!!
Mollie
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Re: January 5-6th, 2025 First Legit Winter Storm of the Season
Early zone forecast from the boys:
Sunday Mostly cloudy. A chance of snow in the morning, then snow in the afternoon. Highs in the upper 20s. Chance of snow 90 percent.
Sunday Night. Snow. Snow may be heavy at times. Lows in the lower 20s. Chance of snow 90 percent.
Monday Snow. Highs in the upper 20s. Chance of snow 90 percent.
Monday Night Mostly cloudy. A chance of snow showers in the evening. Lows around 15. Chance of snow 40 percent.
Latest thinking from the boys:
The main item of interest for the long term period is going to
be the evolution of the system poised to impact the region
Sunday into Monday. At these time ranges, we can only speak
reliably to trends within the ensemble data/solutions and will
refrain at this point from any mention of specific amounts of
snow and/or ice.
Synoptically, by Saturday night, the expansive ern trof should
be pulling away from the OH Vly, with midlevel ridging building
E in its immediate wake. This midlevel ridge will nudge E into
the region by late Saturday/night, but will gradually flatten as
the ejecting S/W into the central plains will move E quicker
than the departing ern trof will pull away. Although the
approaching trof will be positively-tilted, it will be subtly
deepening/strengthening into early Sunday, spreading large-scale
ascent (and moisture) eastward into the mid MS/OH Vlys during
the day. The evolution and tracks of these types of systems is
so important for determining exactly how a storm unfolds and
what impacts are felt for various locations.
At this juncture, there has been a trend within the ensemble
guidance for a slightly stronger/further N track of the low
center (supported by ensemble member low center clustering) as
it progresses E through the srn OH Vly and nrn TN Vly late
Sunday/night. This would suggest a slightly further N pivoting
of the all-important baroclinic zone, which will be draped W to
E in the vicinity of srn IL/IN through N KY and srn OH by 00z
Monday. It seems probable, at this juncture, that some mixed
(FZRA and/or IP) wintry pcpn should evolve for at least a brief
period of time late Sunday/night into early Monday across the
srn parts of the ILN FA, with all snow favored further N
(especially near/N of I-70). Of course, the more mixed pcpn that
occurs, the lower the snow amounts would likely be in those
spots. From a liquid-equiv QPF perspective, ensemble guidance
suggests high probabilities of at least 0.5" N of the OH Rvr,
with equally-high probabilities of 0.5" to 1" near/S of the OH
Rvr. So regardless of exact ptype that evolves, we are talking
significant amounts of wintry pcpn. This ensemble mean QPF
bullseye of around 1" (liquid-equiv) has also shifted N with
successive fcst cycles, mirroring the same trend noted within
the low center clustering. This only complicates (and magnifies)
the forecast and messaging, although we are still 4-5 days out,
so we have some time to narrow down some specifics.
At this point in time, general awareness and adequate planning
for a winter storm is the proper course of action. Details
regarding specific ptypes and amounts will become clearer in the
coming days. What is already clear, however, is the likelihood
that an arctic airmass will settle into the region next week,
with much below normal temperatures expected for the foreseeable
future in the OH Vly.
Temperatures and wind chills may approach critical (advisory)
thresholds at times next week, depending on evolution of cloud
cover, winds, and potential for fresh snowpack. It is, however,
looking like the coldest stretch of the winter thus far for us
locally.
Sunday Mostly cloudy. A chance of snow in the morning, then snow in the afternoon. Highs in the upper 20s. Chance of snow 90 percent.
Sunday Night. Snow. Snow may be heavy at times. Lows in the lower 20s. Chance of snow 90 percent.
Monday Snow. Highs in the upper 20s. Chance of snow 90 percent.
Monday Night Mostly cloudy. A chance of snow showers in the evening. Lows around 15. Chance of snow 40 percent.
Latest thinking from the boys:
The main item of interest for the long term period is going to
be the evolution of the system poised to impact the region
Sunday into Monday. At these time ranges, we can only speak
reliably to trends within the ensemble data/solutions and will
refrain at this point from any mention of specific amounts of
snow and/or ice.
Synoptically, by Saturday night, the expansive ern trof should
be pulling away from the OH Vly, with midlevel ridging building
E in its immediate wake. This midlevel ridge will nudge E into
the region by late Saturday/night, but will gradually flatten as
the ejecting S/W into the central plains will move E quicker
than the departing ern trof will pull away. Although the
approaching trof will be positively-tilted, it will be subtly
deepening/strengthening into early Sunday, spreading large-scale
ascent (and moisture) eastward into the mid MS/OH Vlys during
the day. The evolution and tracks of these types of systems is
so important for determining exactly how a storm unfolds and
what impacts are felt for various locations.
At this juncture, there has been a trend within the ensemble
guidance for a slightly stronger/further N track of the low
center (supported by ensemble member low center clustering) as
it progresses E through the srn OH Vly and nrn TN Vly late
Sunday/night. This would suggest a slightly further N pivoting
of the all-important baroclinic zone, which will be draped W to
E in the vicinity of srn IL/IN through N KY and srn OH by 00z
Monday. It seems probable, at this juncture, that some mixed
(FZRA and/or IP) wintry pcpn should evolve for at least a brief
period of time late Sunday/night into early Monday across the
srn parts of the ILN FA, with all snow favored further N
(especially near/N of I-70). Of course, the more mixed pcpn that
occurs, the lower the snow amounts would likely be in those
spots. From a liquid-equiv QPF perspective, ensemble guidance
suggests high probabilities of at least 0.5" N of the OH Rvr,
with equally-high probabilities of 0.5" to 1" near/S of the OH
Rvr. So regardless of exact ptype that evolves, we are talking
significant amounts of wintry pcpn. This ensemble mean QPF
bullseye of around 1" (liquid-equiv) has also shifted N with
successive fcst cycles, mirroring the same trend noted within
the low center clustering. This only complicates (and magnifies)
the forecast and messaging, although we are still 4-5 days out,
so we have some time to narrow down some specifics.
At this point in time, general awareness and adequate planning
for a winter storm is the proper course of action. Details
regarding specific ptypes and amounts will become clearer in the
coming days. What is already clear, however, is the likelihood
that an arctic airmass will settle into the region next week,
with much below normal temperatures expected for the foreseeable
future in the OH Vly.
Temperatures and wind chills may approach critical (advisory)
thresholds at times next week, depending on evolution of cloud
cover, winds, and potential for fresh snowpack. It is, however,
looking like the coldest stretch of the winter thus far for us
locally.
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12Z EPS for Lunken! Nice!
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18Z GFS is a tick south, weaker, and faster. Should be a great run!
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All snow for CVG Land wow! What a nice run!
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CVG
SUN 18Z 05-JAN -3.2 -4.5 1020 56 96 0.16 554 538
MON 00Z 06-JAN -5.2 -5.2 1015 95 94 0.31 550 538
MON 06Z 06-JAN -5.7 -7.8 1014 95 99 0.21 542 530
MON 12Z 06-JAN -6.0 -9.9 1018 94 91 0.03 541 527
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18Z Euro came in more north. Snow to sleet to frz rain then back to snow at CVG.
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SUN 18Z 05-JAN -4.6 -3.0 1018 89 100 0.38 556 542
MON 00Z 06-JAN -3.8 0.3 1008 92 98 0.45 552 546
MON 06Z 06-JAN -3.8 0.5 1001 92 48 0.18 541 540
MON 12Z 06-JAN -4.8 -10.6 1006 87 100 0.12 533 529
MON 18Z 06-JAN -4.4 -11.2 1015 78 64 0.07 537 526
Re: January 5-6th, 2025 First Legit Winter Storm of the Season
Im glad I'm checking here for Sunday- Mondays storm , could be calling off work Monday lol I know the brutal cold is coming this week so my question is a little ahead but the weather for January 11th does it look clear no snow? My daughter is getting married that day .
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Depends on where she is getting married. Right now, granted we are still 10 days out, it shows that storm running along the Gulf coast and threatening AL/MS/GA/FL and the Carolinas with a winter storm that may include ice and snow into the Florida panhandle.Snow43130 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2025 8:24 pm Im glad I'm checking here for Sunday- Mondays storm , could be calling off work Monday lol I know the brutal cold is coming this week so my question is a little ahead but the weather for January 11th does it look clear no snow? My daughter is getting married that day .
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fyrfyter wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2025 9:57 pmDepends on where she is getting married. Right now, granted we are still 10 days out, it shows that storm running along the Gulf coast and threatening AL/MS/GA/FL and the Carolinas with a winter storm that may include ice and snow into the Florida panhandle.Snow43130 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2025 8:24 pm Im glad I'm checking here for Sunday- Mondays storm , could be calling off work Monday lol I know the brutal cold is coming this week so my question is a little ahead but the weather for January 11th does it look clear no snow? My daughter is getting married that day .
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She is getting married in fairfield county 35 min from Columbusmikeyp wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2025 10:10 pmfyrfyter wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2025 9:57 pmDepends on where she is getting married. Right now, granted we are still 10 days out, it shows that storm running along the Gulf coast and threatening AL/MS/GA/FL and the Carolinas with a winter storm that may include ice and snow into the Florida panhandle.Snow43130 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2025 8:24 pm Im glad I'm checking here for Sunday- Mondays storm , could be calling off work Monday lol I know the brutal cold is coming this week so my question is a little ahead but the weather for January 11th does it look clear no snow? My daughter is getting married that day .
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Re: January 5-6th, 2025 First Legit Winter Storm of the Season
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