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Re: Severe Weather Threat [Dec 10-11 2021]
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 7:25 am
by tron777
Summary from our boys on the event here locally:
https://www.weather.gov/iln/20211211
There was a confirmed TOR in Ada, Ohio.
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Public Information Statement
National Weather Service Wilmington OH
934 PM EST Sat Dec 11 2021
...EF1 TORNADO CONFIRMED IN HARDIN COUNTY OHIO...
Location...Nearly 3 miles south of Ada in Hardin County, Ohio
Date...December 11, 2021
Estimated Starting Time...3:06 AM EST
Estimated Ending Time.....3:10 AM EST
Maximum EF-Scale Rating...EF1
Estimated Maximum Wind Speed...110 mph
Maximum Path Width...260 yards
Path Length...1.6 miles
Beginning Lat/Lon...40.7305N/83.8264W
Ending Lat/Lon......40.7405N/83.7989W
* Fatalities...0
* Injuries.....0
...Summary...
The National Weather Service, with assistance from Hardin County
Ohio Emergency Management Agency, confirms an EF1 tornado nearly
3 miles south of Ada in Hardin County Ohio. This tornado occurred
during the early morning hours on Saturday, December 11, 2021.
The first sign of tornadic damage was observed at a residence just
southwest of the intersection of State Route 309 and 235, where
part of the roof was lifted off a barn and multiple softwood trees
were snapped and blown in multiple directions.
The tornado then strengthened as it moved northeast, causing more
substantial damage at a business and a two story residence, located
on opposite sides of State Route 309, near the intersection with
State Route 235. At the business, two outbuildings were completely
destroyed and part of the roof of another building was lifted
off, with debris splatter noted on multiple sides of this building.
A metal sign was also damaged, and a tractor trailer was overturned
on its side.
At the two story home, the roof was completely lifted off, with parts
of the roof thrown in multiple directions. Several windows were broken,
most likely due to metal debris from the business across the road.
Two outbuildings were completely destroyed. Debris from these outbuildings
and debris from the home were blown at least 0.7 miles in the
field to the northeast. Multiple trees also sustained significant
damage. The tornado was strongest in this area, with maximum winds
up to 110 mph.
The tornado was likely still on the ground in the field to the northeast
of State Route 235, however showed signs of weakening as it
crossed Township Road 55. On Township Road 55, shingles were
removed from one home, while one outbuilding had partial roof
uplift and another outbuilding was moved off cinder blocks. A few
trees along a grove behind the home were also snapped.
Additional minor roof damage was observed on Township Road 64.
This appears to be the end of the tornado, as no further damage
was noted to the northeast.
The National Weather Service in Wilmington thanks the Hardin County Ohio
Emergency Management Agency for assistance with this storm damage survey.
EF Scale: The Enhanced Fujita Scale classifies tornadoes into the
following categories:
EF0...Weak......65 to 85 mph
EF1...Weak......86 to 110 mph
EF2...Strong....111 to 135 mph
EF3...Strong....136 to 165 mph
EF4...Violent...166 to 200 mph
EF5...Violent...>200 mph
* The information in this statement is preliminary and subject to
change pending final review of the event and publication in NWS
Storm Data.
$$
BPP/JDR
Re: Severe Weather Threat [Dec 10-11 2021]
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:02 am
by airwolf76
Im kind of surprised . I see EF4 damage or what looks like EF4 damage on a lot of pics and videos. my guess is the overall tornado intensity is EF3 with higher internal vorticies or gusts producing EF4 and 5 damage .
Re: Severe Weather Threat [Dec 10-11 2021]
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 12:41 pm
by tron777
airwolf76 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:02 am
Im kind of surprised . I see EF4 damage or what looks like EF4 damage on a lot of pics and videos. my guess is the overall tornado intensity is EF3 with higher internal vorticies or gusts producing EF4 and 5 damage .
A lot of surveys are still ongoing. Will be for several more days if not another week. There have been 39 confirmed tornadoes in KY and that number will likely go up even further. One of the worst outbreaks in this state's history.
Re: Severe Weather Threat [Dec 10-11 2021]
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:30 pm
by MVWxObserver
https://www.weather.gov/iln/20151223
Dec 23rd, 2015 was a small outbreak in the OV, of course nothing compared to what occurred this past weekend.
Re: Severe Weather Threat [Dec 10-11 2021]
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 5:07 pm
by tron777
From a KY standpoint only, this one was worse then April of 74 IMO.
Re: Severe Weather Threat [Dec 10-11 2021]
Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2021 6:15 pm
by tron777
Per John Gumm's FB Page:
**BREAKING** The #MayfieldTornado is given a preliminary rating of EF4 with estimated 190 mph sustained winds. We still don't know how far the tornado traveled on the ground for its entire lifespan, but it traveled 128 miles across the Paducah NWS area alone and was a mile or more wide. Storm surveys continue.
Mayfield TOR.jpg
Re: Severe Weather Threat [Dec 10-11 2021]
Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2021 6:27 pm
by tron777
Re: Severe Weather Threat [Dec 10-11 2021]
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:33 pm
by tron777
Bowling Green KY tornado has been upgraded to EF4 per NWS CRH.
Re: Severe Weather Threat [Dec 10-11 2021]
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 12:46 pm
by tron777
Per John Gumm:
According to a storm survey in from the NWS in Memphis, TN, it appears as though the “Quad State Supercell” produced *two* separate EF4 tornadoes. They found an 11 mile break in the damage from the time one lifted in TN until the one that hit Mayfield, KY formed. That means the record tornado track length from the 1925 Tri-State (MO, IL, IN) tornado of 219 miles still stands and there was indeed no “Quad State Tornado”.
TOR1.jpg
TOR2.jpg
Re: Severe Weather Threat [Dec 10-11 2021]
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 1:09 pm
by airwolf76
heard there are still many people missing yet.
Re: Severe Weather Threat [Dec 10-11 2021]
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 2:01 pm
by tron777
airwolf76 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 1:09 pm
heard there are still many people missing yet.
Yes Sir... I believe as of yesterday, there were still at least 16 people missing.
Re: Severe Weather Threat [Dec 10-11 2021]
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 5:42 pm
by Bgoney
tron777 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 12:46 pm
Per John Gumm:
According to a storm survey in from the NWS in Memphis, TN, it appears as though the “Quad State Supercell” produced *two* separate EF4 tornadoes. They found an 11 mile break in the damage from the time one lifted in TN until the one that hit Mayfield, KY formed. That means the record tornado track length from the 1925 Tri-State (MO, IL, IN) tornado of 219 miles still stands and there was indeed no “Quad State Tornado”.
TOR1.jpg
TOR2.jpg
Yea , I figured as much from the get go. For officials and meteorologists to say just a few hours after the event that it was the all time record was stupid. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't, there is no way in hell they would know that one way or the other until, well today, one week later .
Just a sign of the times, I guess.. Although still a truly unbelievable event and catastrophe. They should have said it was from one supercell thunderstorm that traveled so many hundreds of miles.
Re: Severe Weather Threat [Dec 10-11 2021]
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 6:03 pm
by tpweather
Bgoney wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 5:42 pm
tron777 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 12:46 pm
Per John Gumm:
According to a storm survey in from the NWS in Memphis, TN, it appears as though the “Quad State Supercell” produced *two* separate EF4 tornadoes. They found an 11 mile break in the damage from the time one lifted in TN until the one that hit Mayfield, KY formed. That means the record tornado track length from the 1925 Tri-State (MO, IL, IN) tornado of 219 miles still stands and there was indeed no “Quad State Tornado”.
TOR1.jpg
TOR2.jpg
Yea , I figured as much from the get go. For officials and meteorologists to say just a few hours after the event that it was the all time record was stupid. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't, there is no way in hell they would know that one way or the other until, well today, one week later .
Just a sign of the times, I guess.. Although still a truly unbelievable event and catastrophe. They should have said it was from one supercell thunderstorm that traveled so many hundreds of miles.
Just to add to the comments and my guess there was no way to confirm that the 219 mile long track was true or not. We are talking about 1925 and my guess no radars, very few reports on the ground,etc so all that really matters is the deaths and the lives that were affected.
Re: Severe Weather Threat [Dec 10-11 2021]
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 6:09 pm
by tron777
I agree guys... been reading on social media today of a huge debate on the EF rating of the Mayfield tornado. EF4 currently but some folks are saying it should be an EF5. Does it really mater? No. What matters is that lives were lost, some people are still missing, and it's going to take that area many months to get back on its feet. Pretty much what you are saying Tim.
Re: Severe Weather Threat [Dec 10-11 2021]
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:46 am
by MVWxObserver
Seeing that areas like Bowling Green i.e. which were hit ...my folks, sister, and I have been there twice for Mammoth Cave tours. Went there one summer during my middle school years and another time as part of a Christmas 2002 vacation with my folks and my sister, bil, niece, and nephew. Took a long tour including lunch at the Snowball Restaurant along that tour route during the summer one and then a short tour with a stop at Frozen Niagara in 2002. At the time of that '02 trip, Janae was 8 and Jared was 5.
Now they're 27 and 24.
Prayers and thoughts with the injured and their families and with the families of the dead.
Re: Severe Weather Threat [Dec 10-11 2021]
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:28 pm
by tron777
Per Gov Beshear as of yesterday we're down to only 1 person missing now which I believe is a 13 year old girl from Bowling Green. Death toll up to 77 (12 of those are children).
Re: Severe Weather Threat [Dec 10-11 2021]
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 12:07 pm
by tron777
All missing persons (both alive or dead) have now been accounted for in KY.
Re: Severe Weather Threat [Dec 10-11 2021]
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 11:30 am
by MVWxObserver
https://www.whio.com/news/trending/kent ... YL2MR36LY/
Sad that often during disasters there's slime balls who take advantage of victims and their family members despair and grief!
Re: Severe Weather Threat [Dec 10-11 2021]
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:42 pm
by tron777
Re: Severe Weather Threat [Dec 10-11 2021]
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 11:46 am
by airwolf76
tron777 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:42 pm
wait a minute so your telling me even places like Mayfield and Dawson Springs only had EF3 rated damage? yeah right lol
Re: Severe Weather Threat [Dec 10-11 2021]
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 11:53 am
by tron777
They got an EF4 rating Charles for the Mayfield one I thought?
Re: Severe Weather Threat [Dec 10-11 2021]
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 12:01 pm
by airwolf76
tron777 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 11:53 am
They got an EF4 rating Charles for the Mayfield one I thought?
Im not positive but I think so. you can tell just from damage pics it was higher then a 3. pretty rare that's for sure
Re: Severe Weather Threat [Dec 10-11 2021]
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:49 pm
by MVWxObserver