Kitchen Sink Storm Feb 2-4, 2022
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Re: Kitchen Sink Storm Feb 2-4, 2022
If correct, we've got a Feb 21 re-do on the way. Ugh...
Re: Kitchen Sink Storm Feb 2-4, 2022
Indy had gone all in and a 42 hour window of a winter storm warning, you don't see that everyday
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Re: Kitchen Sink Storm Feb 2-4, 2022
Yea ,, eastern part of tri state a freezing rain nightmare and sleet/FZ for nearly everone else
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Re: Kitchen Sink Storm Feb 2-4, 2022
It’s definitely a NAM run when 2/3rds of the state is ice!
Re: Kitchen Sink Storm Feb 2-4, 2022
No doubt coming down to the thermals. The system itself is about the same strength but a little further northeast. I can see why Indy has went into full winter storm warning and if the recent runs are true over a foot very possible up there.
Re: Kitchen Sink Storm Feb 2-4, 2022
I thought the system itself was further northeast but the speed is a tad quicker so that tells me its not gaining strength but those warmer thermals may be around somewhat longer. Lets see the gfs on the next run but no doubt the models are in agreement with the strength and placement of the waves but the thermals can no doubt cause some major busts to certain areas especially towards I-70
Re: Kitchen Sink Storm Feb 2-4, 2022
What a nice storm folks and timing is so key. How far southeast does the colder air move and then sort of stall as the second wave moves northeast. I give folks a lot of credit for making a forecast this early because this system is tough to call because of precip types. The nam is starting to get into its wheelhouse so you can never ignore that model especially when talking about thermals. I believe this forecast will be much easier for Indy than CVG because of the precip types.
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Re: Kitchen Sink Storm Feb 2-4, 2022
Alright, lets see if the 18z GFS holds to the previous runs?
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Re: Kitchen Sink Storm Feb 2-4, 2022
The 3km NAM is a tad colder with the thermals, but still a sleet storm for CVG
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Re: Kitchen Sink Storm Feb 2-4, 2022
Let's hope we expect sleet and it changes to snow as a surprise??Trentonwx06 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:42 pmAt least we are prepared expecting sleet. Last year was at game time all the sleet showed up.
I want a foot of snow too!!!tpweather wrote: over a foot very possible up there.
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Re: Kitchen Sink Storm Feb 2-4, 2022
A lot of talk about this storm around the office. I think for those snow lovers in the Cincy area this is setting up to be a great disappointment. Everyone is going to be looking jealously towards Indy...
Not looking forward to the sleet fest.
Not looking forward to the sleet fest.
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Re: Kitchen Sink Storm Feb 2-4, 2022
18Z NAM text data
Code: Select all
CVG
THU 7A 03-FEB -1.5 4.6 1023 89 95 0.18 563 545
THU 1P 03-FEB -2.1 6.2 1019 88 97 0.13 564 549
THU 7P 03-FEB -3.1 1.6 1018 89 98 1.17 563 549
FRI 1A 04-FEB -6.6 -0.9 1023 84 90 0.07 560 543
HAO
THU 7A 03-FEB -2.3 3.1 1024 86 98 0.18 562 544
THU 1P 03-FEB -2.9 5.6 1020 86 97 0.12 563 547
THU 7P 03-FEB -4.0 0.0 1019 86 98 1.06 563 548
FRI 1A 04-FEB -7.0 -1.5 1023 83 90 0.09 559 541
MGY
THU 1A 03-FEB -0.5 2.3 1021 93 97 0.29 561 544
THU 7A 03-FEB -3.1 2.3 1024 87 98 0.20 562 543
THU 1P 03-FEB -3.2 5.1 1021 84 97 0.12 563 546
THU 7P 03-FEB -5.0 0.2 1019 87 98 1.03 562 547
FRI 1A 04-FEB -7.6 -1.8 1023 84 91 0.11 559 541
DAY
THU 1A 03-FEB -2.0 1.3 1022 89 98 0.29 560 543
THU 7A 03-FEB -3.9 0.8 1025 86 98 0.19 561 542
THU 1P 03-FEB -3.8 2.8 1022 84 97 0.12 562 545
THU 7P 03-FEB -5.9 -0.1 1020 87 98 0.96 561 546
FRI 1A 04-FEB -8.1 -2.4 1024 85 89 0.11 558 540
CMH
THU 1A 03-FEB 0.3 2.0 1021 96 98 0.39 561 544
THU 7A 03-FEB -3.3 2.5 1025 87 96 0.18 562 543
THU 1P 03-FEB -3.2 5.1 1022 86 96 0.11 563 545
THU 7P 03-FEB -3.9 1.2 1018 89 98 0.98 563 549
FRI 1A 04-FEB -7.5 -1.2 1022 84 97 0.21 559 543
FGX
THU 1P 03-FEB -0.4 7.2 1018 91 82 0.06 566 552
THU 7P 03-FEB 0.6 8.9 1013 98 97 1.01 567 556
FRI 1A 04-FEB -4.9 2.3 1021 87 90 0.44 564 547
Re: Kitchen Sink Storm Feb 2-4, 2022
Sleet fest.....
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Re: Kitchen Sink Storm Feb 2-4, 2022
This is gonna be an awesome storm to watch unfold. I have been worse suspect to thinking we’re going to see more sleet and snow unfortunately but regardless this is going to be a wild but awesome storm
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Re: Kitchen Sink Storm Feb 2-4, 2022
Sleet is better then the ice, but it's still going to be a *itch to remove lol
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Re: Kitchen Sink Storm Feb 2-4, 2022
A novel from the boys:
Rain begins to overspread the region Wednesday morning, with
coverage increasing throughout the afternoon. Ensemble members
continue to show unseasonably high PWAT values existing from the
enhanced moisture advection from the Gulf. As such, QPF values
continue to trend fairly high on Wednesday, with locations along
and west of I-75 observing as much as 0.5" to 1.00" of rain-
equivalent accumulation. While most of this is expected to fall
as rain, locations in our far northwest may begin to see a
transition to a brief wintry-mix followed by snow Wednesday
afternoon. This is driven by the longwave H5 trough slowly
propagating eastward, spilling in colder air aloft that will
help with changing the p-type.
The counties that are currently highlighted in the Winter Storm
Warning are the locations where confidence is highest on
significant, accumulating snowfall amounts occurring. This is
mainly driven by the rapid transition to snow occurring by
Wednesday evening and persisting through Wednesday night. In our
remaining southern counties, more mixed precipitation appears to
be favored based on thermal profiles shown in model soundings.
The cold front will start to (slowly) work its way through our
CWA Wednesday evening, dropping surface temperatures to near or
below freezing along and NW of I-71 before daybreak. This will
lead to a gradual transition of rain to freezing rain to sleet
from NW to SE overnight.
The one interesting item to note here is that models have begun
to show a similar trend in a southeastward shift on where the
maximum areas of freezing rain accumulation will occur. Model
soundings Wednesday night into Thursday morning do seem to favor
freezing rain during the initial transition for a several hour
period, but then transition to profiles that seem to favor more
sleet than freezing rain with the wintry-mix. What this means is
that we are slowly beginning to see a downward trend in freezing
rain accumulation for locations along and northwest of I-71 due
to increased sleet potential. However, slight errors in these
model soundings (even by 1-2 degrees) can significantly alter
p-types and thus accumulation potential, so this is something to
always be mindful of. Regardless, the morning commute will shape
up to be fairly messy for the I-71 corridor and locations NW as
a wintry-mix continues into Thursday.
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.LONG TERM /THURSDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/... The cold front should
be southeast of our area by Thursday morning with colder air
continuing to advect southeast across our area in the low
levels. A secondary wave riding northeast along the front will
lead to a renewed surge of moisture up into our area through the
day on Thursday with widespread pcpn then continuing into
Thursday evening before beginning to taper off from the
northwest later Thursday night into Friday morning.
In the CAA, temperatures will fall through the day on Thursday. By
daybreak Thursday, pcpn is expected to be mainly all snow to the
north of I-70 with a transition zone to sleet and freezing rain
along the I-71 corridor, and all rain across our southeast. As we
head through the day, this transition zone will shift southeast
through the rest of our area with an eventual changeover to all snow
Thursday into Thursday evening. The heaviest snow amounts will be
across our northwest where the pcpn will be all snow for the longest
period of time. For areas to the north of I-70, 8-12 inches of snow
will be possible, along with some light ice accumulations. Snow and
ice amounts become more problematic in the transition zone and
points to the southeast as forecast soundings are hinting at the
potential for an extended period of sleet mixing in. This would cut
down on both snow amounts and ice accretions for areas along and
southeast of I-71. Will make some slight downward adjustments to our
ice accumulations but for now only make some minor tweaks to
expected snowfall amounts. Will expand the current Winter Storm
Warning a bit farther south, but given some of the continued ptype
uncertainty, plan on hanging on to the Winter Storm Watch for the
rest of our forecast area.
With a tightening pressure gradient, northerly winds will increase
during the day on Thursday with some gusts to around 30 mph or so
possible for areas along and northwest of I-71. This will lead to
the possibility for some blowing snow and also some concern for tree
and power line damage given the heavy, wet snow and ice potential.
Gusty winds will continue into Thursday evening before gradually
decreasing somewhat overnight Thursday. Cold high pressure will
build into the region Friday into Saturday with highs both day
mostly in the teens and 20s. With mostly clear skies, light winds
and some snow on the ground, lows Friday night into Saturday morning
will likely dip below zero. These colder temperatures will be a
concern if we do end up with some power outages.
Rain begins to overspread the region Wednesday morning, with
coverage increasing throughout the afternoon. Ensemble members
continue to show unseasonably high PWAT values existing from the
enhanced moisture advection from the Gulf. As such, QPF values
continue to trend fairly high on Wednesday, with locations along
and west of I-75 observing as much as 0.5" to 1.00" of rain-
equivalent accumulation. While most of this is expected to fall
as rain, locations in our far northwest may begin to see a
transition to a brief wintry-mix followed by snow Wednesday
afternoon. This is driven by the longwave H5 trough slowly
propagating eastward, spilling in colder air aloft that will
help with changing the p-type.
The counties that are currently highlighted in the Winter Storm
Warning are the locations where confidence is highest on
significant, accumulating snowfall amounts occurring. This is
mainly driven by the rapid transition to snow occurring by
Wednesday evening and persisting through Wednesday night. In our
remaining southern counties, more mixed precipitation appears to
be favored based on thermal profiles shown in model soundings.
The cold front will start to (slowly) work its way through our
CWA Wednesday evening, dropping surface temperatures to near or
below freezing along and NW of I-71 before daybreak. This will
lead to a gradual transition of rain to freezing rain to sleet
from NW to SE overnight.
The one interesting item to note here is that models have begun
to show a similar trend in a southeastward shift on where the
maximum areas of freezing rain accumulation will occur. Model
soundings Wednesday night into Thursday morning do seem to favor
freezing rain during the initial transition for a several hour
period, but then transition to profiles that seem to favor more
sleet than freezing rain with the wintry-mix. What this means is
that we are slowly beginning to see a downward trend in freezing
rain accumulation for locations along and northwest of I-71 due
to increased sleet potential. However, slight errors in these
model soundings (even by 1-2 degrees) can significantly alter
p-types and thus accumulation potential, so this is something to
always be mindful of. Regardless, the morning commute will shape
up to be fairly messy for the I-71 corridor and locations NW as
a wintry-mix continues into Thursday.
&&
.LONG TERM /THURSDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/... The cold front should
be southeast of our area by Thursday morning with colder air
continuing to advect southeast across our area in the low
levels. A secondary wave riding northeast along the front will
lead to a renewed surge of moisture up into our area through the
day on Thursday with widespread pcpn then continuing into
Thursday evening before beginning to taper off from the
northwest later Thursday night into Friday morning.
In the CAA, temperatures will fall through the day on Thursday. By
daybreak Thursday, pcpn is expected to be mainly all snow to the
north of I-70 with a transition zone to sleet and freezing rain
along the I-71 corridor, and all rain across our southeast. As we
head through the day, this transition zone will shift southeast
through the rest of our area with an eventual changeover to all snow
Thursday into Thursday evening. The heaviest snow amounts will be
across our northwest where the pcpn will be all snow for the longest
period of time. For areas to the north of I-70, 8-12 inches of snow
will be possible, along with some light ice accumulations. Snow and
ice amounts become more problematic in the transition zone and
points to the southeast as forecast soundings are hinting at the
potential for an extended period of sleet mixing in. This would cut
down on both snow amounts and ice accretions for areas along and
southeast of I-71. Will make some slight downward adjustments to our
ice accumulations but for now only make some minor tweaks to
expected snowfall amounts. Will expand the current Winter Storm
Warning a bit farther south, but given some of the continued ptype
uncertainty, plan on hanging on to the Winter Storm Watch for the
rest of our forecast area.
With a tightening pressure gradient, northerly winds will increase
during the day on Thursday with some gusts to around 30 mph or so
possible for areas along and northwest of I-71. This will lead to
the possibility for some blowing snow and also some concern for tree
and power line damage given the heavy, wet snow and ice potential.
Gusty winds will continue into Thursday evening before gradually
decreasing somewhat overnight Thursday. Cold high pressure will
build into the region Friday into Saturday with highs both day
mostly in the teens and 20s. With mostly clear skies, light winds
and some snow on the ground, lows Friday night into Saturday morning
will likely dip below zero. These colder temperatures will be a
concern if we do end up with some power outages.
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Re: Kitchen Sink Storm Feb 2-4, 2022
Indeed with the cold temperatures Saturday, going to need a pick axe
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Re: Kitchen Sink Storm Feb 2-4, 2022
We expect disappointment with snow already. Just like the Bengals, but hey it's a new year! I'm putting faith in the GFS, but I also expect a bust.
Re: Kitchen Sink Storm Feb 2-4, 2022
ILN added a handful of counties to the Winter Storm Warning.
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Brookville, Ohio
Northwest Montgomery county
I70 Corridor
Northwest Montgomery county
I70 Corridor
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Re: Kitchen Sink Storm Feb 2-4, 2022
I’m just going to get out a blowtorch!
Re: Kitchen Sink Storm Feb 2-4, 2022
I have one that I use to burn weeds in pavement or gravel. Would work on ice too!
Brookville, Ohio
Northwest Montgomery county
I70 Corridor
Northwest Montgomery county
I70 Corridor
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Re: Kitchen Sink Storm Feb 2-4, 2022
ILN doesn’t seem too impressed as I read it.
Re: Kitchen Sink Storm Feb 2-4, 2022
Expecting the gfs to come further north with this run. The thermals on the nam just promotes a shift in the low pressure. If there is not a change to the gfs we have a fight on our hands.
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Re: Kitchen Sink Storm Feb 2-4, 2022
If the Bengals can make it to the SuperBowl maybe metro Cincinnati can get more than 3-4 inches of snow in one go...mainevilleweather wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:11 pmWe expect disappointment with snow already. Just like the Bengals, but hey it's a new year! I'm putting faith in the GFS, but I also expect a bust.
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Cincinnati: Batavia/Amelia (H), Norwood (W)
The extent of my weather knowledge is pointing at the sky and saying what color it is.